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    Windows 7 vs Windows 8 RTM: Gaming Performance

    In less than two weeks, Windows 8 will be available for anyone to buy and install on their personal computers or simply, upgrade their current operating system. But is Windows 8 any good? Since I will focus on performance this will not be a review but a gaming performance comparison between Windows 7 and Windows 8.

    Windows 8 has been in development since 2009 and has seen a lot of debate whether it is a viable successor to Windows 7. Most of us got a chance at testing the new OS by installing one of the three beta versions released to the public by Microsoft: Developer Preview, Consumer Preview and Release Preview.

    Metro UI / Windows Design Interface

    The first striking difference from Windows 7 and probably the most debated “feature” is the new Metro interface (Metro UI). For me, as a gamer, programmer etc, Metro UI has absolutely no use, but more than that it keeps getting in the way. I must admit, even though I’ve been using Windows 8 as a secondary OS, I still don’t know how to Shut Down or Restart my PC without signing out first.

    Even though there is no official “Disable Metro UI” button there are a few ways of getting rid of it, but this is not the problem. The real problem is the direction in which Microsoft has taken Windows. Windows 8 is all about monetization, the integrated XBOX Live like Store serves no purpose other than begging for your money. I can understand monetization but I can’t understand the need for always telling the user about it. For instance, opening a file will always trigger a rather annoying tooltip saying: “Hey, the store has 1337 apps that can open this file”, I don’t care, I have already installed my favorite application.

    WDDM 1.2 and Direct3D 11.1

    WDDM (Windows Display Driver Model) 1.2 brings a set of new features that are not entirely performance related, at least not from a “gaming” stand point. With the new Driver Model, the bandwidth used when playing videos (fullscreen) is reduced thus the power consumption is lower. The second feature of WDDM 1.2 is the Operating System’s ability to “discern” between a hung application and one that is still in queue; By doing this, Windows will not have to reset the GPU whenever a application freezes but only the part of the GPU (engine) that is causing the issue. The third feature called GPU Preemption allows for better and faster sharing of the GPU by applications, reducing latency. In theory, the performance that results from these new features are mostly going to be felt in 2D.windows-7-8-wddm.jpgDirect3D 11.1 (DirectX 11.1) is a small increment from D3D 11 that allows developers to debug their code more effectively through the use of Shader tracing and compiler enhancements and various other new methods and functions. For the full list of D3D 11.1 Features read the Official Feature List. Some of these features will work with DirectX 11 GPUs, I recommend reading Anandtech’s article on WDDM 1.2 and D3D 11.1 for more in depth information.

    The purpose of this article

    As the title reads, this article is all about gaming performance. Toss in some games and see how they perform on Windows 7 and on Windows 8, nothing more nothing less. A couple of weeks ago I asked you in a poll if I should wait for a better AMD Catalyst driver or to wait for Windows 8 to be officially released before making these tests and here are the results.

    Most of you wanted to see these results straight away and I must agree. We all know AMD, how long will it take before a “good Windows 8 Catalyst driver”? I’m not willing to wait that long and Windows 8 is just 2 weeks away from the official release. This is as good a time as any.
    Tests and Settings

    All tests were ran 3 times, the average was noted. Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 had all available Windows Update patches installed.

    Arma II: Operation Arrowhead – v1.62 – Very High Settings @ 1920×1080 – Benchmark Scenario 01
    Batman Arkham City – v1 – Extreme Settings @ 1920×1080 – FXAA (Medium) – DirectX 11 Normal Tessellation – Cobblepot Intro and Thugs Fight
    Battlefield 3 – Ultra Settings @ 1920×1080 – 4xMSAA – Multiplayer on Strike at Karkand (32p map, Large Conquest), US Deployment -> B Flag
    Borderlands 2 – Highest Settings @ 1920×1080 – PhysX Low
    Dishonored – Highest Settings @ 1920×1080 – FXAA – Intro Scene
    DiRT Showdown – Ultra Settings @ 1920×1080 – 8xMSAA – Benchmark Mode
    F1 2012 – Ultra Settings @ 1920×1080 – 8xMSAA – Benchmark Mode
    Mass Effect 3 – Highest Settings @ 1920×1080 – Mars Archives Cinematic
    Sleeping Dogs – v1.5 – Extreme Settings @ 1920×1080 – Benchmark Mode
    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – v1.7.7 – Ultra Preset – 1920×1080 – 8xAA – 16xAF – Tested in the area East of Rorikstead
    Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty – v1.5.2 – Highest Settings @ 1920×1080 – 4vs4 Replay with pre-caching, 8x speed
    The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition – v3.2 – Ultra Settings (Ubersampling Off) @ 1920×1080
    Test System Specifications
    Test Hardware | Windows 7 vs Windows 8: Gaming Performance
    Processor

    Intel Core i5-2500K (Sandy Bridge)

    4.5 GHz, 6 MB L3 Cache, power-saving settings disabled, Turbo Boost disabled.
    Motherboard MSI P67-C43-B3, Intel P67 Chipset
    Memory 2 x 2 GB DDR3 1600MHZ
    Hard Drives

    WD 500 GB SATA III (OS)

    Samsung 750 GB Sata II (Game)
    Graphics Card Sapphire HD6950 1 GB
    Power Supply Corsair TX 650 W
    System Software And Drivers
    Operating System Windows 7 SP1 x64
    Windows 8 Pro x64 build 9200 (RTM)
    Driver AMD Catalyst 12.9 Beta (9.001)

    First test, huge difference. For whatever reason Arma 2 Operation Arrowhead runs extremely bad on Windows 8. I spent a lot of time trying to fix this issue but I just couldn’t, as you may have guessed, a lot of games have difficulty in running (if at all) under Windows 8, but I will talk about this later on.

    Most Unreal Engine 3 developed games work well under Windows 8. Games like Borderlands 2, Dishonored, Mass Effect 3 (and Witcher 2, even though developed under a proprietary engine: RED Engine) perform as good on Windows 8 as on Windows 7. The exception is Batman Arkham City, heavily modified UE3 developed game, dips lower under Windows 8 especially in DirectX 9. Even though the average FPS is the same for both operating system, the differences between them while playing the game can be felt as well as seen, stuttering in Windows 8 with this game is a real problem.

    Battlefield 3 is a very resource demanding game and even in Windows 7 as RAM gets filled up performance diminishes but in Windows 8 after just a couple of minutes the game becomes unplayable. Even the mouse input was extremely laggy to begin with.

    Other tested games like: Dirt Showdown, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Sleeping Dogs and Starcraft 2 are usually behind just by 2 or 3 frames per second on Windows 8. Nothing that can’t be improved later on by better drivers, game updates or even Windows updates.

    The only game that actually benefits from running under Windows 8 is Formula 1 2012. Truth be told, the differences are, again, just a couple of frames.
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...rtm/arma-2.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...man-ac-dx9.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...an-ac-dx11.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...tlefield-3.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...derlands-2.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...wdown-dx10.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...wdown-dx11.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...dishonored.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...-2012-dx10.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...-2012-dx11.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...s-effect-3.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...rtm/skyrim.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...eping-dogs.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...tarcraft-2.jpg
    http://cdn2.benchmark3d.com/benchmar...tcher-2-ee.jpg
    I only tested a handful of games but the results are clear. Windows 8 is not as fast as Windows 7 when it comes to games, yet. There is still room for improvement through drivers, game updates and Windows updates.

    First time I tried Windows 8 (Consumer Preview) I wasn’t able to run any Games for Windows Live (GFWL) titles and now they all at least start. There is only one game I wished to test that didn’t work at all and that was Max Payne 3. All the other games started just fine but in a few cases some fiddling was necessary. For instance, Sleeping Dogs didn’t start before running it in Win 98 Compatibility Mode.

    Another issue I had was the Screen Refresh Rate wasn’t detected correctly. When changing the resolution to 1080p, DiRT Showdown and F1 2012 detected the Screen Refresh Rate at 59hz, Battlefield 3 reported 59.9hz and that’s the most probable cause for the mouse input lag I had in BF3. Using the default Monitor driver or the ones from the manufacturer made no difference, also changing the Catalyst driver had no impact on the matter. Had the same problem back in Consumer Preview with Crysis 2 but Battlefield 3 worked OK back then.

    Is Windows 8 ready to run all your games on release ?

    Probably not, games like Max Payne 3 and L.A. Noire won’t even start. Some need to be ran in compatibility mode. Some won’t even detect the correct Refresh Rate. And most of them will under perform in comparison to Windows 7. While just a few will perform the same or better under Windows 8.

    Things will definitely change in the future, just before making the tests I had to install a 300 MB “Security” Update from Windows Update, though, highly unlikely, I’m not entirely sure that this and previous Windows updates hadn’t have anything to do with the Screen Refresh Rate issues I mentioned earlier.

    As a last “thing”, I’ve read a few articles “out there” that pretty much praise Windows 8 and how big of an improvement it is over Windows 7. Let me remind you how huge Microsoft’s Marketing Department is in order to bury OpenGL and all it stood for, you can read up on that all over the Internet.
    Note: Results may vary with each system. You should not make an opinion about Windows 8 solely on this article
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    talk to me when they fix all the bugs ^^ there bringing out 8 when they havnt even fixed 7 soo yeah ^^
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    Good piece of information, thanks for sharing!

    While it is a very nice newspost, I think it's even nicer to also mention the original source: http://benchmark3d.com/windows-7-vs-...ng-performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmA-X View Post
    Good piece of information, thanks for sharing!

    While it is a very nice newspost, I think it's even nicer to also mention the original source: http://benchmark3d.com/windows-7-vs-...ng-performance
    yups sharing from right source given by u and Congrazts for WarZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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    Thanks for all that info i am going to wait a few months before i install windows 8 on this pc i am currently on due to the amount of games that crash on it on the other pc in the living room

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    At this point windows 8 are bad, do not switch at any cost.
    Nothing really works yet, there are no drivers for windows 8 and its not yet well optimized for games and programs.

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    I don't like the looks of Windows 8.
    I'll stick to Windows 7.
    It's never enough.
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